Frank Stoner / May 16th, 2012 / Blogs
Second Place: Clips, or you didn’t do it

See, there are two primary worldviews simultaneously present in statements like “Clips, or you didn’t do it.”

The first has to do with the way the statement demands evidence. This is the basis of empiricism. In case you’ve never heard that before, empiricism is a worldview that relies on sensory perception and testing. It is marked by two primary objectives: the ability to predict something, and the ability to repeat something.

Something else that is tied up in an empiricist worldview is an ontology that requires a reality external to the perception and actions of people. In a nutshell, that means when a tree falls in a forest it still produces crashing sounds even if no one is around to hear it.

Having film footage is a way around direct observation because most of us take video footage of an event to be a demonstration of that event. Film acts as a stand-in for reality in that case, and most people would accept the event as having happened. As you surely know, that isn’t necessarily true, but most people tend to take things at face value because that’s what our brains readily do for us—they construct a coherent reality.

The thing is, viewing the world as being strictly empirical often causes us to miss things that might otherwise be apparent. For example, when you’re faced with a statement like “Clips, or you didn’t do it,” you probably understand several things. Foremost, the speaker is mostly likely just harassing you and knows that you probably did do the trick you say you did. But you also know that the speaker is being somewhat sarcastic—which means he (or she) is saying one thing and meaning something different. Like when you say “nice job” to somebody right after they’ve screwed something up.

So you know that your challenger isn’t necessarily saying that you didn’t do the trick you said you did. What he’s really after isn’t an empirical question at all. What’s really being said is that the trick you say you did doesn’t “count” without the footage. Whether it happened probably isn’t really in question.

Although, we’ve all talked to skaters who just flat out lie about shit.

Rumor has it that a number of skaters whose names you’d recognize routinely lie about what tricks they’ve done so that they’re forced to deliver the goods the next time they skate a certain spot in the presence of others. Honestly, it ain’t a bad strategy to make yourself do something — I mean, if you’re into that kind of thing.

But back to the worldviews.

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Discussion / Second Place: Clips, or you didn’t do it

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  • josip - May 17th, 2012

    This one is a lot less hermetical that your first entry. A fun read, indeed.

  • Frank Stoner - May 17th, 2012

    Thanks for giving me another shot, man! I’m glad you liked it.

  • Jesse Meyers - June 6th, 2012

    Makes me think back to all the shit I did before the filming culture was as pervasive as it is now. Lost of stuff that I wouldn’t even think of trying now, haha.

    P.S. And just giving you shit but isn’t it farside soul? 😉

    P.P.S. What’s a hommie?

  • Frank Stoner - June 6th, 2012

    Hey Jesse! I’m glad you brought that up about filming culture. It’s a topic I’d like to address soon but I haven’t quite figured out what I want to say about it just yet.

    To your “PS”, do you mean that it’s two words not one?
    To your “PP”, “hommie” is my spelling of “homeboy” because I haven’t seen it canonized yet. Some people write “homie” and others I’ve seen–though perhaps illiterate–spell it “homey” or “homy”. Thanks for reading, man! and thanks for the comments!

  • Jesse Meyers - June 7th, 2012

    What do you think about how the filming culture affects people trying big tricks? I mean, you used to just go for it because you wanted it but do you think people who are attached to filming will hold off if they can’t film it?

    RE: PS I was just kidding around about you saying, “So, when you film yourself doing a topside soul down a rail” and trying to keep the farside name going.

    RE: PPS LOL!

  • Frank Stoner - June 7th, 2012

    It’s hard to say. People have always summoned what Matt Mantz used to call Kodak courage — either in skating or in stuff like ‘America’s Funniest Videos’ — when it comes to big tricks or stunts. I’ve known lots of guys over the years who wouldn’t try stuff unless there was a camera rolling, and that’s as true today as it was in the mid 90s. Not everyone is like that, obviously. But it’s definitely been “out there in the ether” for a very long time.

    As for the farsides… man. whew! I don’t even know what to say anymore! I skate with some younger guys every week, along with some OGs and I find myself code-switching between the old terms and the new depending on who I’m talking to. “Savanna” is another stumbling block for me that I have to pay attention to depending on who I’m talking to.

    As for the correct spelling of “hommie” vs. “homie” I’m not sure I trust Urban Dictionary to be the final word, but I definitely will accept that I don’t know as much as I should about rap and hip hop culture!

    Thanks for your comments, Jesse!

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